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Michelle Handy, chief investment officer of direct lending at Napier Park Global Capital, explains why she believes that recent tensions in private credit reflect cyclical stress—not a structural breakdown in the asset class—and why these concerns reinforce the importance of manager selection, underwriting, diversification and understanding how vehicle structures impact liquidity.
Garrett Stephen, Senior Managing Director, Co-Head of Origination at Napier Park Global Capital talks to CJ Doherty, Director of Market Analysis at LSEG LPC, about private credit in 2025 and what is in store for 2026. "I'd say on the AI side, it's really a big focus at the business level for us on making sure that we're implementing AI more broadly within our work streams to stay ahead of the curve,” Stephen said. "If you have a large workforce and maybe not every individual within that workforce is productive, and you can utilize technology to make your core employees more productive, that potentially could cause some of that workforce to decline in those mature or declining businesses."
Dane Graham of 17Capital discusses the rise of NAV finance, why it’s gaining traction with insurers, and how it fits into the broader private credit market.
NAV finance used to be a niche, little known corner of debt capital markets, but over the past 10 years it has evolved into a firmly established part of the private markets ecosystem.
Listen here to the latest episode of The Insight by Oaktree Capital for an in-depth conversation about NAV finance, a rapidly growing segment of the private credit landscape, with the co-founder Pierre-Antoine de Selancy. He explains what NAV finance is, why it has become so popular, and why its growth is likely to accelerate in the coming years.
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